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Factually! with Adam Conover

The Secret Agent Organizer of the Starbucks Union with Jaz Brisack

Factually! with Adam Conover

Headgum

Comedy

4.42.2K Ratings

🗓️ 23 July 2025

⏱️ 90 minutes

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Summary

Companies are infamous for their union busting tactics, but that doesn’t mean union organizers don’t have their own strategies. This week, Adam speaks with Jaz Brisack, an undercover organizer, or union “salt”, who took a job as a barista in a Starbucks in Buffalo, NY with the explicit intention of organizing Starbucks employees. Thanks to the effort of Jaz and other organizers, around 550 Starbucks stores and 11,000 baristas now have a union. Adam and Jaz talk about how to drum up support for a union in a workplace, the tactics companies use to try to prevent unionization, and how cats are a surprisingly effective source of early workplace bonding. Find Jaz's book at factuallypod.com/books

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