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The Rundown by PoliticsHome

The second referendum campaign revisited

The Rundown by PoliticsHome

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Politics, News

4.1107 Ratings

🗓️ 30 January 2026

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

This week, deep breath, we’re delving back into the Brexit years, after a new book about the failed campaign for a second EU referendum is published this week.


It tells the story of a rag-tag bunch of Remainers, Europhiles and progressives coming together out of the anti-Brexit movement following the vote to leave in 2016, hoping to drag the country back to the ballot box in the hope of a different outcome.


How they got closer than anyone might have expected, and why they ultimately fell short, is the subject of 'No Second Chances The Inside Story of the Campaign for a Second EU Referendum, by the journalist Morgan Jones.


Host Alain Tolhurst spoke to her about why that period between 2017 and 2019 has been "memory-holed" by most in Westminster, and what we can learn from that period about how the current government, led by the one-time shadow Brexit Secretary Keir Starmer, is reshaping our relationship with the EU.


Speaking alongside her is the Labour MP Andrew Lewin, who back then founded and ran the 'Remain Labour' group, and Anand Menon, Professor of European Politics at King's College London, and the director of the UK In a Changing Europe think tank.



Presented by Alain Tolhurst, produced by Nick Hilton and edited by Ewan Cameron for Podot

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to The Rundown, a podcast from Politics Home with me Alan Tolhurst.

0:08.6

This week, deep breath, we're delving back into the Brexit years.

0:12.3

Sorry if this sets up for your political PTSD, but when I heard about a new book being written

0:16.8

on the failed campaign for a second E-Referendum, I knew we had to do an episode on it.

0:21.2

A rag-tag bunch of Remainers, Europhiles and progressives came together in the anti-Brexit movement

0:25.9

following the vote to leave in 2016, hoping to drag the country back to the ballot box in the hope

0:30.6

of a different outcome. How they ended up getting closer than anyone might have expected, while

0:34.9

they ultimately fell short, is the subject of no second

0:37.6

chances, the inside story of the campaign for a second year referendum by the journalist Morgan Jones.

0:42.5

I spoke to her about why that period between 2017 and 2019 has been memory-holded by most in

0:47.5

Westminster, and what we can learn from that period about how the current government, led by

0:51.7

the one-time shadow Brexit secretary, Kirstama,

0:56.2

is reshaping our relationship with the EU.

0:59.2

Speaking alongside her is the Labour MP Andrew Lewin,

1:01.6

who back then founded and ran the Remain Labour Group,

1:05.2

and Anand Menon, presser of European politics at King's College London,

1:07.8

and director of the UK and a changing Europe think tank.

1:14.7

So starting with you, Morgan.

1:16.7

What in the first place made you decide to write this book?

1:20.6

What kind of enticest you about reaching back to those days of the second referendum campaigning to write this book?

1:22.7

I mean, so between mostly 2017 and 2019 in the 2017 Parliament, the anti-Brexit movement was one of a completely

1:29.9

dominating force in British politics. And I mean, I've worked in and around the Labour Party

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