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Every marriage has conflict in it. I can't imagine anybody being married,

living together, dealing with each other on a day-to-day basis and not having

some sort of struggle, argument, conflict. And for us, it was Dina thinking we

have to resolve this tension today before the sun goes down. We've addressed

the fallacy of that in previous episodes. For me, it was like, I just want to live in peace.

Can we just be done with this? I'm sorry. I would preemptively say, I'm sorry. And she'd

look at me like, for what? I don't know. I'm just sorry. It was not the healthiest way

to solve conflicts in our relationship. But didn't work. Well, 37 years later we're

trying. We're getting there. I'm John Fuller joined by Dr. Greg Smalley and his wife,

Aaron Smalley. And we're going to tie this conversation today into our theme this month,

which is engagement getting ready for marriage. And Aaron, you often counsel couples,

even engaged couples. So how do you help them, particularly the not yet married couple,

understand a more realistic picture about marital conflict? Well, you look right in

scripture. And first Corinthians 728 says, for those that marry, you will face hard times.

And so I always bring that up fairly early when I'm starting with a new couple who's seeking

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