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Welcome to the Quillette podcast, hosted on alternate weeks by me, Jonathan Kay, and by Iona Italia.

Quillette is where Freethought lives. We are an independent grassroots platform for

heterodox ideas and fearless commentary. You are about to hear a free preview of this

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I'm your host this week, Iona Italia. My guest is Michael Shermer. Michael is a scholar, writer and journalist. He is also the founder and publisher of Skeptic magazine and the host of the podcast The Michael Shermer Show. He has an academic background in evolutionary psychology and taught critical thinking to university students for decades.

He was also a monthly columnist for Scientific American for 18 years.

Michael is the author of a number of books on epistemology and ethics,

including Why People Believe Weird Things with Stephen J. Gold, why Darwin matters, the signs The Signs of Good and Evil, The Moral Arc, Heavens on Earth, Giving the Devil His Jew, and Conspiracy, Why the Rational Believe the Irrational. Today I'm going to talk to him about his latest book, Truth, What It Is, How to Find It, Why It Still Matters.

I hope you enjoy my conversation with Michael Shermer.

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