The Search for a State
Living with the Gods
BBC
4.7 • 616 Ratings
🗓️ 30 November 2017
⏱️ 14 minutes
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Summary
Neil MacGregor continues his series on shared beliefs with a look at the attempts of some faiths to establish a state of their own.
An over-printed coin from 2nd century Jerusalem tells of the failed attempt of Shimon bar Kokhba to lay claim to a state for the Jews, free from Roman rule - while a white cotton flag, framed in pale blue, flew over Sudan after it had been taken by Mahdist forces and before the Islamic state collapsed in the mid 1890s.
Producer Paul Kobrak
Produced in partnership with the British Museum Photograph (c) The Trustees of the British Museum.
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| 0:00.0 | This is a heavily loaded, aggressively propagandist coin minted by the rebels of that second great revolt. |
| 0:10.1 | Hello, I'm Neil McGregor, and in this series of podcasts, I'm looking at objects to see how shared beliefs help shape societies. |
| 0:19.4 | This episode looks at faiths that try to establish a territory of their own. |
| 0:24.2 | This is the BBC. |
| 0:27.7 | In the last few programmes, we've looked at how nation-states have tried to impose one faith or to abolish religion altogether. |
| 0:35.8 | In this programme, I want to look at the idea of a religious state |
| 0:39.4 | which has been lost or does not yet exist, |
| 0:43.0 | how Jews, Muslims and Christians have over millennia |
| 0:46.3 | dreamt of possessing a territory |
| 0:48.8 | where they can give political expression |
| 0:50.8 | to the hopes and ideals embodied in their faith. |
| 0:54.1 | We're going to carry us away to capitalism political expression to the hopes and ideals embodied in their faith. |
| 0:55.0 | Surely the best known the city I'm standing in now, |
| 1:12.5 | Jerusalem. There's no obvious geographic or strategic advantage to be had from this site, |
| 1:18.9 | and yet its role in Jewish, Christian and Islamic history has made it perhaps the single, |
| 1:25.2 | most bitterly contested patch of land in human history. |
| 1:29.3 | We all know about the tragic conflicts of today, |
| 1:32.3 | but these struggles stretch back over thousands of years |
| 1:35.3 | and include the Crusaders and the Assyrians, the British, the Persians, the Egyptians, |
| 1:40.3 | and of course the Romans. |
| 1:43.3 | One of the most and of course the Romans. |
| 1:53.8 | One of the most significant chapters of the Roman story in Jerusalem is told in a coin here at the British Museum. |
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