The Scramble for AI

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🗓️ 14 July 2023

⏱️ 48 minutes

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The world’s most powerful countries are racing to dominate artificial intelligence. Who will win? The answer might lie in who controls high-end chips—and the critical metals behind them. Paul Scharre, the author of Four Battlegrounds: Power in the Age of Artificial Intelligence, describes this competition in FP’s new Summer 2023 print issue and joins host Ravi Agrawal to discuss how AI will shape geopolitics for years to come. Suggested reading: Paul Scharre: AI’s Gatekeepers Aren’t Prepared for What’s Coming Stanley McChrystal: AI Has Entered the Situation Room Sasha Polakow-Suransky: Can ChatGPT Explain Geopolitics? Alondra Nelson: How to Regulate AI Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	America is changing. And so is the world.
0:04.5	But what's happening in America isn't just a cause of global upheaval.
0:08.7	It's also a symptom of disruption that's happening everywhere.
0:12.5	I'm Asma Khalid in Washington, D.C.
0:14.7	I'm Tristan Redman in London, and this is the global story.
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0:29.6	What I told people, I was making a podcast about Benghazi.
0:34.1	Nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why?
0:40.7	Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies.
0:44.6	From prologue projects and Pushkin Industries, this is Fiasco, Benghazi.
0:50.5	What difference at this point does it make?
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1:01.4	Hi, I'm Ravi Agrawal, Foreign Policy's editor-in-chief.
1:05.1	This is FP Live.
1:10.6	Welcome to the show.
1:12.3	All of a sudden, everyone is talking about artificial intelligence.
1:17.1	It's gone from being a relatively niche area a year ago to a topic that the broader public seems obsessed with.
1:24.4	Some of this new interest, to be fair, is because of ChatGPT. When it launched late last year,
1:30.7	I think it connected with non-AI experts because it started doing well at very human tasks,
1:37.8	research, school tests, the bar exam, and it spurred larger public debate about AI's role in society, its impact on jobs,
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