This is the 10% happier podcast. I'm Dan Harris. Hello my fellow suffering beings how we doing today we're going to talk about the science of

changing your relationship to food, the science effectively of eating or more

specifically overeating, eating when we're not hungry. I know this is a huge problem for me even after years of

working on it. I want to be clear from the outset here that this is not an

episode about how to lose weight after many years of obsessively trying to

wrench my body into a certain shape.

I have learned through many of the interviews right here on the show in fact that this is a toxic

enterprise trying to get your body to look a certain way.

Anyway, it's unlikely to work in an abiding fashion.

Anyway, it might work for a little while. So instead, today, as I mentioned, we're going to talk about the science of changing

your relationship to food, how to eat mindfully. Actually we're going to do a two-part

series on the subject this week as part of a recurring series that we call

Get Fit Sainly. Today's guest is my old friend Dr Judson Brewer. He's a best-selling author and internationally renowned

addiction psychiatrist and neuroscientist. He's a professor in the School of Public Health and also at the Medical school at Brown University.

He's the author of the forthcoming book,

The Hunger Habit, Why We Eat When We're Not Hungry and How to Stop.

And in this conversation, we talk about habits versus addictions, the scientific evidence to support Judd's approach.

The difference between Hedonic hunger and homeostatic hunger, the pleasure plateau, the difference

between satisfaction and contentment.

Judd's take on intuitive eating, which has been hugely influential for me,

whether we can still eat gummy worms, mindfully, and the Buddha's advice on eating.

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