The Science of Thriving
Life, Death & The Space Between with Dr. Amy Robbins
Dr. Amy Robbins
4.8 • 582 Ratings
🗓️ 23 February 2026
⏱️ 51 minutes
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Summary
Today, I’m talking with Jon Rosemberg. He spent decades climbing the corporate ladder, closing massive deals, and achieving everything we’re told will make us happy. But his real wake-up call didn’t come in a boardroom—it happened on his basement floor, building Legos with his kids. In this powerful conversation, Jon breaks down the difference between success and true thriving, and shares the science-backed map to reclaim your agency, find meaning, and reconnect with what actually matters.
00:00 From Survival Mode to Thriving
02:43 Jon's Family History of Survival
04:37 Defining Success vs. Thriving
06:58 The Lego Epiphany: A Wake-Up Call
11:51 The Breadcrumbs Leading to Change
14:59 The Spiral of Survival and Thriving
18:25 The AIR Method: Awareness, Inquiry, Reframing
23:59 Real-Life Example: Reframing Failure
29:38 Defining Transcendence and Spirituality
33:37 Clients and Kids as Spiritual Teachers
37:15 Integrating Transcendent Experiences
43:05 Small Steps to Start Thriving Today
48:21 Where to Find Jon and His Book
Learn more about Jon Rosemberg:
Website: jonrosemberg.com
Book: "A Guide to Thriving"
LinkedIn: @JonRosemberg
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| 0:00.0 | We're told the goal is more. More money, more power, more titles, and most of us spend decades |
| 0:07.7 | chasing exactly that. But what if everything you've been working towards is actually keeping |
| 0:14.2 | you from the life you're meant to live? My guest today, John Rosenberg, comes from a family that survived the Holocaust and spent his |
| 0:23.3 | childhood navigating the dangerous streets of Caracas, Venezuela. Survival wasn't a metaphor for him. |
| 0:31.7 | It was how he lived every day. So when he made it to the C-suite, closed a $150 million deal, and built everything |
| 0:40.9 | the world said would make him happy, you'd think the story would be over. But it wasn't, because |
| 0:46.8 | the real wake-up call came on the floor of his basement, building Legos with his kids after a mild |
| 0:53.2 | case of COVID, and one single intense phone |
| 0:56.8 | call. In that moment, John realized he wasn't just exhausted. He was spiritually and emotionally |
| 1:04.5 | bankrupt. Today, John joins me to share the science-backed map he created to help us all move from getting by to truly |
| 1:14.5 | thriving. And I promise you, it has nothing to do with your bank account. And with that, I bring you |
| 1:21.3 | today's episode with John Rosenberg. We need at our table of awareness, the logician, but equally we need the intuitive, we need |
| 1:30.0 | the mystic. |
| 1:31.0 | I was allowed to go to the very precipice of death, of life and death, and look over the edge. |
| 1:38.1 | And I was allowed to behold what was there and allowed to come back. |
| 1:42.1 | Most people aren't. |
| 1:43.1 | We talk about being aligned with our self, or being aligned with our soul, |
| 1:46.4 | or hearing our higher self, that's really what we're talking about is being connected |
| 1:51.0 | to that divine part of ourself, that light-filled part of us, |
| 1:54.4 | that is connected to God energy, that is connected to everybody here and every experience |
| 2:00.0 | we've ever had. |
| 2:07.1 | If more doctors, more professionals can open up to use intuitive gifts in their work, |
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