Stress monitor what it's telling you when you're stressed is far more sensitive to challenge than it is to threat.

And so when I look at my stress monitor and it says, Bill, you spent two hours in the high stress zone today.

That could have been a great day.

The only days that you aren't going to get any stress at all are going to be days where there's neither threat nor challenge.

And there's another word for days that have no threatened and challenge.

And it's called boring when you see a high stress monitor score it could be

that yes you were threatened about something but it's very possible it was a day of high engagement

a day we were excited challenge is what makes life exciting and of course that shows up in stress

monitor as a sign that you're stressed but it's not a bad form of stress at all

dr von hipple it's great to see you senior scientist at woo i'm so excited Dr. Von Hiffel.

Great to see you.

Senior scientist at Wu.

I'm so excited for this conversation.

We have a paper that was just published, which is very exciting.

Cardic responses to daily threats and challenges during wakefulness and sleep.

So why don't you tell us a little bit about what we found in this paper and why it's interesting? And I might stop you just to define some things as we go. This paper is part of a

big project that we ran through Woop Labs where about 11,000 people volunteered to measure their

blood pressure and then answer some questions about stress that they experienced both in the

evening and then they answer in the morning anticipating their day. So there's a really lovely data set that actually

tells us lots of cool things, some of which we could come back to later in this podcast, like,

for example, sleep concerns. But for now, the focus is on these ideas of threat versus challenge.

Now, when we tend to think about stress, we think about things being bad.

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