The Science of Romance Scams
The Perfect Scam
AARP
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🗓️ 3 April 2026
⏱️ 61 minutes
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Summary
When Anola returns home from a picture-perfect trip to France, she finds an unexpected flirtation with a man who reaches out to her on LinkedIn. He showers her with love and attention, and over time, he steals thousands from her. When she discovers the deception, Anola reaches out to the real man behind the photo the scammer used, drawing her into a second betrayal. Criminals have figured out how to hack our brains, bypassing the rational and going directly for the emotional response. Austin Cusak, an expert in behavioral science at the FDIC, joins host Bob Sullivan to discuss the phenomenon known as "amygdala hijacking."
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| 0:00.0 | This week on The Perfect Scamp. |
| 0:03.0 | I was like, I feel uncomfortable with this. |
| 0:07.0 | I said, should I be seeing a red flag here? |
| 0:10.0 | And he said, what do you mean, a red flag? |
| 0:13.0 | And I said, I've heard of guys making women fall in love with them and then stealing all their money. |
| 0:20.0 | He immediately put a guilt trip on me and said, I don't need your money. |
| 0:29.6 | Welcome back to the perfect scam. I'm your host, Bob Sullivan. |
| 0:33.9 | There is nothing like Paris to stir your romantic side. |
| 0:41.8 | Anola Johnson enjoyed one of those postcard perfect trips to France and came home to a flirtation and a romance she just didn't expect. |
| 0:46.5 | She was swept off her feet and then swept into a nightmare that stole her heart and her money |
| 0:53.0 | for nearly two years. But as we'll see, |
| 0:56.2 | Paris really is part of her story. Criminals are experts at hacking our brains, talking right past |
| 1:02.0 | our rational selves, and directly to the emotional, impulsive part of ourselves. We have a brilliant |
| 1:08.3 | expert here today to discuss what's sometimes called a magdala hijacking. |
| 1:13.4 | But first, to get us all in the mood, let's go to Europe with Anula. |
| 1:18.7 | I got to take my sister along, which was really nice. |
| 1:21.9 | And one kind of funny thing was that she can be a curmudgeon sometimes. |
| 1:27.4 | Not really, but it was like dark. And I wanted to go out and see the Eiffel Tower. And I said, come on, let's go out and see the Eiffel Tower. I had another one of my workmates with me. And she said, oh, you guys go. I don't want to go. I said, are you kidding. You are in the city of lights. You are in Paris. If you don't come with me, |
| 1:46.6 | you know, you are grounded for the rest of the time here. So anyway, she came and she loved it. |
| 1:53.0 | She had a great time. But it's just, I don't know what it is about Paris. It's just magical. |
| 1:59.4 | And I went to Ina Garten's favorite grocery store, and I was just blown away. |
| 2:04.7 | I thought, we need grocery stores like that in the U.S. |
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