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Hey worklifers!

Today I'm bringing you a snippet from another podcast I enjoy, a slight change of plans

with cognitive scientists Maya Shunker.

Maya demystifies the psychology of change and looks at how the transitional moments in

our lives transform who we are and who we become.

Maya is joined by Islet Fishbok, a psychologist in one of the world's leading experts on setting

smarter goals and actually sticking with them.

Islet shares how we can handle potentially unrealistic goals, how we can better reward

ourselves for making progress, and what questions we need to ask ourselves when it comes to

setting good targets.

Dr. Islet Fishbok is a professor of behavioral science at the University of Chicago and

is the author of the best-selling book Get It Done, Surprising Lessons from the Science

of Motivation.

She spent decades studying how we can get better at not only setting the right goals

for ourselves but also sticking with them.

One of her strategies is to think carefully about what we reward ourselves for when we're

trying to reach a goal.

Maya Shunker often we reward what is easy to measure, okay?

So we might reward ourselves for how many hours we set in front of our computer but not

really on whether we were productive, whether we did work that gets us somewhere.

Maybe we were just answering emails and kind of killing time but we did work for many

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