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🗓️ 13 December 2022
⏱️ 48 minutes
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For decades, renowned psychologists John and Julie Gottman have studied–and guided–healthy relationships. They share insights from their research–and their marriage–on how to avoid a relationship apocalypse, handle conflict, and make love last. Their latest book, “The Love Prescription” is out now, and Adam has a field day getting them to demonstrate the differences between good and bad fights.
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0:00.0 | Thanks to Deloitte for sponsoring this episode. |
0:03.0 | Hey everyone, it's Adam Grant. |
0:08.0 | Welcome back to Rethinking, my podcast on the science of what makes us tick. |
0:12.0 | I'm an organizational psychologist, and I'm taking you inside the minds of fascinating |
0:16.0 | people to explore new thoughts and new ways of thinking. |
0:20.0 | My guests today have changed how I think about relationships. |
0:27.0 | Actually, they've probably done more good for everyone's relationships than anybody else on earth. |
0:32.0 | As pioneering psychologists for the past four decades, |
0:35.0 | John and Julie Gottman have done groundbreaking work on the science and practice of healthy marriages. |
0:41.0 | They co-founded the Gottman Institute, and they've written numerous bestselling books together. |
0:46.0 | Their newest release is the love prescription. |
0:51.0 | I have so many questions for both of you, but I guess the place I want to start is |
0:56.0 | how did you get interested in studying relationships? |
0:59.0 | Well, I got interested in studying relationships 50 years ago, primarily because my relationships were failing. |
1:06.0 | I teamed up with my best friend Robert Levinson, who's a psychology professor at UC Berkeley. |
1:13.0 | And his relationships were not going very well either. |
1:17.0 | And I know Bob once said, John, we can either have a relationship or study relationships. |
1:24.0 | We're doomed to just study that. |
1:27.0 | So we built a lab to try to learn from people who have good relationships, how to do it. |
1:34.0 | And I think I got interested in relationships through John, because I began as a psychologist who was working with heroin addicts, |
1:46.0 | folks who were diagnosed with schizophrenia, people who were really traumatized by either war combat, |
1:53.0 | or torture, or sexual abuse, or physical abuse. |
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