What is going on everybody? Welcome back to the Mindover Macros Podcast. As always, I am your host, Mike Milner, and today I was joined by a legend in the fitness space.

Jim Stapani joined me on the show and we broke down everything.

Well, he really broke it down.

I was just here to ask the questions and let him deliver his wisdom since he's

been in the space a long time, has been kind of, you know, one of those people is cool to one things I love so much about

podcasting is people that I've looked up to and followed for you know for years

to then be able to interact with them and pick their brain and you know just deliver that that

perspective from somebody who's been doing it for for decades which is which is really cool.

And so what I really appreciate about Jamies,

science-based has been in the,

you know, kind of the evidence-based community,

science-based community for a long time, but also understands the importance of real life experience,

anecdotal experience, what are we seeing with clients?

And we don't always have a study to verify every single thing that we know from

firsthand experience or anecdotal experience and I just like the blend of

those concepts like what does the science tell us how does it direct us but then also what do we know from

from you know being in the field and getting our hands dirty so that's really what we talked about

in the context of fat loss and body composition and building muscle and all of that stuff.

So you're going to get just a ton out of this conversation.

If you do, of course, we want to hear about it. we would love for you to share the best way to do

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