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Welcome to the Hall of the Universe.

I'm Neil deGrasse Tyson, your personal astrophysicist

and you are watching Star Talk, where tonight we're featuring my interview with David Byrne,

who's the creator and songwriter for Talking Heads.

He came by, I nabbed him, put him in my office,

and we talked about the creativity involved in science versus art,

and whether one day intelligent machines will be as creative as we...

So let's do this.

Okay, with me as a co-host, name Higgins, may we welcome back to Star Talk?

Thank you. It's good to be back.

Welcome.

And we have with us a special guest, an academic guest who's also a talented artist,

and we have Monica Lopez-Gonzalez. Welcome, Monica.

She's on the visiting faculty at Johns Hopkins University in Cognitive Neuroscience.

Very cool.

So we're featuring my interview with David Byrne, a hugely creative person,

and he was the key... he was like the frontman of the Talking Heads,

and they sort of pioneered the video music revolution back in the early 80s.

And from my notes on him, he... talking head stopped in like 1991,

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