The School of Hard Facts
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BBC
4.6 • 1K Ratings
🗓️ 22 October 2012
⏱️ 29 minutes
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Summary
E.D. Hirsch is a little-known American professor whose radical ideas about what should be taught in schools are set to have a profound effect on English schools. A favoured intellectual of the Education Secretary, Michael Gove, Hirsch advocates a curriculum strongly grounded in facts and knowledge. He also believes that there are certain specific ideas, works of literature and scientific concepts which everyone should know so that they can be active participants in society.
Presenter Fran Abrams interviews Hirsch about his ideas. She considers their likely impact on English schools and speaks to the former English schools minister, Nick Gibb MP, who championed Hirsch's ideas when he was in government. He explains the reasons for bringing Hirsch's ideas across the Atlantic and how they could counteract what he describes as a prevailing left-wing ideology among teachers.
Fran also visits London's Pimlico Academy which is pioneering a "Hirsch-style" curriculum in its new primary school. She talks to the young women leading this experiment: Anneliese Briggs and Daisy Christodoulou.
Daisy was once dubbed "Britain's brightest student" after captaining the successful Warwick University team on "University Challenge". She discusses why she finds Hirsch's ideas so compelling. She also explains why, in her view, he stands in a proud left-wing tradition that champions knowledge as power, a view that contrasts with Nick Gibb's more right-of-centre take on Hirsch's ideas.
Fran also talks to Professor Sir Michael Barber, chief education adviser to Pearson and former policy implementation director to Tony Blair in Downing Street, and to a former leading member of the Government's expert panel on the curriculum, Professor Andrew Pollard.
Producer Simon Coates.
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| 0:40.0 | This week, Fran Abrams finds out why the education secretary Michael Gove is so keen for school |
| 0:46.7 | children to brush up on their general knowledge. |
| 0:50.0 | Who during the Eisenhower presidency led Senate investigations Michael |
| 0:54.6 | Joe McCarthy into the communist infiltrators yes a point to Michael Gove there |
| 1:00.3 | These days is the education secretary, but back in 1990 he was a contestant in a grumpian television quiz show. |
| 1:10.0 | Welcome back. Well, we go into a sequence round with... |
| 1:13.0 | Now that Mr Gove's got a bit of power, he's running the schools in England, |
| 1:17.0 | he'd like young people to be a bit more... |
| 1:20.0 | Well, like he used to be, brimming with answers, on American history, World War I, even religion. |
| 1:28.0 | What's the job of a nuncio? |
| 1:30.0 | Michael, he's a people ambassador. |
| 1:32.0 | He is indeed who devised the system of naming plants with two Latin names? Michael? |
| 1:37.0 | Linnaeus. |
| 1:38.0 | Linaeus. Yes, what are... |
| 1:39.0 | Of course the Education Secretary doesn't really want to turn us all into a nation of quiz |
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