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🗓️ 2 August 2023
⏱️ 34 minutes
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Sharon sits down with author and historical researcher, Bill Shaffer, to learn untold stories of a Hamilton descendant in his gripping book, “The Scandalous Hamiltons: A Gilded Age Grifter, a Founding Father's Disgraced Descendant, and a Trial at the Dawn of Tabloid Journalism. Today, if an author pitched a book proposal with as many twists and turns as this true story holds, it would likely be considered too far-fetched to be believable. Learn how curiosity from a fountain in Riverside park led to a deluge of court records, newspaper articles, and this turn-of-the-Century scandal.
Host/Executive Producer: Sharon McMahon
Guest: Bill Shaffer
Audio Producer: Jenny Snyder
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| 0:00.0 | Hello friends, welcome. Thank you so much for joining me today. Oh my goodness. Today's guest |
| 0:11.3 | is Bill Schaeffer and he has written a book called The Scandal of Hamilton's. And it is about |
| 0:17.0 | Hamilton Descendant and a scandal that you are not going to believe. It's one of those things |
| 0:24.8 | where it's just like, what? If this somebody wrote this as a movie proposal, everybody would be like, |
| 0:31.9 | that's not, no, that's not believable. We can't make that movie. So just buckle up, buckle up. |
| 0:39.6 | Let's dive in. I'm Sharon McMahon and here's where it gets interesting. |
| 0:46.8 | Well, I'm very excited to be chatting with Bill Schaeffer today. Thank you for being here. |
| 0:50.7 | Thank you. I saw your book on an upcoming release list and I was like, well, I will be reading |
| 0:57.2 | that. I'm glad. I'm glad. And I think the book is very, very aptly titled. It's called The Scandalist |
| 1:07.4 | Hamilton's. A Guilded Age Krifter of Founding Fathers disgraced descendant and a trial at the |
| 1:15.6 | dawn of tabloid journalism. And that definitely like, boy, that ticks a lot of boxes in my brain, Bill. |
| 1:24.9 | Let's start at the beginning. How did you become interested in this story? Because it is |
| 1:32.4 | very scandalous. Yeah, I live on the west side of Manhattan. And I about in 2017, I relocated to a new |
| 1:42.3 | building. And I was out for a walk in my sort of little three or four block area. And I got to |
| 1:49.4 | the end of 76th Street in Riverside Drive. And I saw this fountain. It's an old horse fountain. |
| 1:57.0 | And it stopped me and I thought this looks like something you would see at Grand Central Terminal. |
| 2:02.7 | And it was a very cold, cold January night. I quickly kind of ran over and scanned the park's |
| 2:08.8 | department plaque. And sure enough, it was designed by Warren and Letmore, who were the architects, |
| 2:14.4 | who designed Grand Central Terminal. They were very prominent architects at the beginning of |
| 2:19.6 | the 20th century. And as I'm hustling home to get out of the cold, I'm wondering why is Warren |
| 2:25.8 | and Letmore designing this little fountain in this sort of obscure corner of Riverside Park? |
| 2:32.4 | So I sort of cursory Google search about the Hamilton Fountain. And some articles came up about |
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