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The Scandal That Took Down Tim Walz

What Next

Slate Podcasts

News Commentary, Daily News, News

4.62.3K Ratings

🗓️ 7 January 2026

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

How a mixture of real investigations, wild allegations, evidence of actual fraud, and the right-wing echo chamber ended Tim Walz’s governor campaign in Minnesota.

Guest: Deena Winter, Minneapolis City Hall reporter for the Star Tribune. 

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Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme, and Rob Gunther.



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I've been thinking a lot about what qualifies as an investigation these days.

0:41.6

I say that because my social feeds are filled with investigations, of all kinds.

0:47.2

Like there's this one guy I follow who seems exclusively interested in abandoned buildings.

0:53.7

He takes pictures of empty office parks with

0:56.4

drained swimming pools and kitchens still filled with food. And then he tells you the story of

1:02.7

what happened there, or at least what he thinks happened there. Anyway, over the Christmas

1:07.6

holiday, I got flooded with a different kind of investigation.

1:15.0

Hello, we'd like to ask where the money's going.

1:18.1

This is a video from a right-wing YouTuber named Nick Shirley. Maybe you caught it too.

1:24.1

I don't think anybody is enabling fraud to happen.

1:26.1

Hold Governor Walls accountable for this. What was this money spent? In it, Shirley goes door to door in Minneapolis,

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