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Rational Security

The “Sad Norman Rockwell” Edition

Rational Security

The Lawfare Institute

Foreignpolicy, Nationalsecurity, News, Government, Politics, Middleeast

4.82K Ratings

🗓️ 21 November 2024

⏱️ 82 minutes

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Summary

This week, Scott sat down with Lawfare Senior Editors Molly Reynolds and Alan Rozenshtein, and with University of Houston Law Center Assistant Professor of Law Chris Mirasola, to talk through the week’s big national security news, including:

  • “Troops, There It Is.” President-elect Donald Trump raised eyebrows this week when he suggested that he intended to declare a national emergency and use U.S. soldiers to implement his planned deportation of undocumented migrants from the United States—the first of many potential domestic uses of the military some fear he will pursue. But does the president have the authority to use the military in this way? And is a(nother) national emergency really necessary?
  • “Break It ‘Til You Make It.” Some have expressed serious doubt as to whether the incoming Trump administration’s flurry of highly controversial nominees for senior positions in government will be able to successfully make its way through even the Republican-held Senate. But doing so may not be necessary, as Trump’s allies are reportedly exploring a legal scheme by which he can use a never-before-used authority to adjourn Congress to force the Senate into an extended recess, and then appoint his preferred nominees as recess appointments. How plausible is this legal theory? And what role is it likely to play in Trump’s confirmation strategy?
  • “Rolling Back the Clock.” While he was once one of TikTok’s greatest enemies, President-elect Trump has changed his tune: on the campaign trail, he came out against the ban on the controversial social media platform passed by Congress, which is sent to go into effect early next year if its China-associated owners do not divest. Will Trump try to come to TikTok’s rescue? And if so, what could he do?

For object lessons, Alan recommended the childrens’ audio player “Yoto,” to the fervent applause of the other guests and their young children. Molly embraced her Patrick Radden Keefe fandom one more time to recommend FX’s forthcoming adaptation of his book, “Say Nothing.” Chris endorsed Jon Batiste’s new album “Beethoven Blues.” And Scott urged listeners to follow his lead and take in an aptonymous double-feature this weekend: the new film “Saturday Night and the first ever 1975 episode of Saturday Night Live that it’s about.

Note: We will be taking the week of Thanksgiving off, but we’ll be back with a new episode of Rational Security on Thursday, December 5. We’re thankful for your continued support of the show!

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0:35.5

We're officially in the home stretch to the holidays.

0:38.2

Do you guys have like dramatic Thanksgiving plans, preparations, trips?

0:43.4

Anything, anything particularly, you know, like a giant 100 pound turkey, you're ready to deep fry and let your house on fire with next week?

0:50.6

I mean, I'm getting on a plane with a three and a half year old on Wednesday.

0:55.6

So you'll want to light something on fire. Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

1:00.7

I think at this point, I've invited over like three separate families for Thanksgiving

1:04.8

and have not given any thought to what I am actually cooking. So they may be coming over to like,

1:10.6

I don't know, KFC or something. Chinese food. That's what I heard you guys. It's may be coming over to like, I don't know,

1:11.3

KFC or something. Chinese food. It's going to be great. If you get KFC and you arrange the drumsticks

1:16.1

the right way, it looks very traditional. That's right. Some bib lettuce just on the side.

1:22.0

And everyone had the saddest thing. Norman Rockwell Thanksgiving, you could ever imagine.

1:27.6

It's like a tiny Norman Rockwell, like a third scale.

1:31.2

That's right.

1:33.0

Just a tinge of sadness just like surrounds all the conversation.

1:36.6

We all have some cranberry trees.

1:37.8

It's fantastic.

1:38.6

I love it.

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