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Uncanny Valley | WIRED

The Sacred Mountain of Chip-Making

Uncanny Valley | WIRED

WIRED

Technology

4.1 • 572 Ratings

🗓️ 23 March 2023

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

If you're reading this, you can thank a semiconductor. Phones, tablets, computers—really any device more digital than pen and paper—all depend on the tiny chips inside them to function. The semiconductor industry is massive, and at the center of it all is one massive firm that makes the bulk of the chips we all rely on: Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company. The company, known widely as just TSMC, is not only the most important enterprise in the chip industry, but it’s also a powerful and stabilizing force in the geopolitical standoff between Taiwan and China that, if ignited, would affect the whole world. TSMC’s untouchable status has earned it an amusing nickname: The Sacred Mountain of Protection.

This week on Gadget Lab, WIRED contributor Virginia Heffernan talks about her trip to the TSMC facility in Taiwan. She tells us how chips are made and explains how the semiconductor industry—TSMC in particular—drives innovation while remaining largely invisible.

Show Notes:

Read Virginia’s story about her trip to the TSMC factory in Taiwan.

Recommendations:

Virginia recommends the show Seven Seconds on Netflix. Mike recommends the Electronic Frontier Foundation’s podcast How to Fix the Internet, specifically the episode “So You Think You’re a Critical Thinker.” Lauren recommends the Apple TV show Bad Sisters.

Virginia Heffernan can be found on Twitter @page88. Lauren Goode is @LaurenGoode. Michael Calore is @snackfight. Bling the main hotline at @GadgetLab. The show is produced by Boone Ashworth (@booneashworth). Our theme music is by Solar Keys.

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0:00.0

Mike.

0:00.8

Lauren.

0:01.6

Have you ever taken a tour of a chip fab?

0:04.8

A chip fab?

0:05.9

A chip fab.

0:07.0

You mean like a place where they make tortilla chips?

0:10.1

Not exactly.

0:11.3

This is a place where the tiny, tiny pieces of silicon inside of our phones are stamped.

0:18.6

Everything that we are doing right now, zooming and taping this podcast,

0:22.8

would cease to exist without this.

0:25.2

Oh, I see.

0:26.2

Yeah.

0:26.6

Have you ever toured one of those fabs?

0:28.3

I have not.

0:29.0

I understand they are very difficult to get inside of.

0:32.1

They are,

0:33.1

but one of our wired colleagues

0:35.0

was able to get inside one recently.

0:37.4

Please say more. We're going to talk to her about it right now. Awesome. Awesome. but one of our Wired colleagues was able to get inside one recently.

0:38.4

Please say more.

0:40.2

We're going to talk to her about it right now.

0:40.5

Awesome.

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