The Russell Brand Interview

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🗓️ 9 February 2018

⏱️ 121 minutes

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This episode of the Making Sense podcast features an interview that Sam did with Russell Brand on the Under the Skin podcast. They speak about religion, terrorism, politics, meditation, psychedelics, and other topics.

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0:00.0	Welcome to the Waking Up Podcast.
0:21.9	This is Sam Harris.
0:23.5	Okay, well this is not an official podcast episode. I have not numbered it as a Waking Up podcast episode.
0:31.5	This is an episode in fact of the Russell Brand podcast under the skin.
0:37.1	This is an interview that Russell did with me about a week ago and released on his podcast,
0:42.6	but I am releasing it here because I said I would. Russell's happy to have me do it.
0:47.9	And so many of you have asked me to have a conversation with Russell that I just wanted to make sure you hear this.
0:54.8	I decided to do it on his podcast rather than on mine.
0:58.3	So he's interviewing me and that has the effect of making me say some things that many of you may have heard before
1:06.7	because he's asking how I got involved in atheism and writing and some background questions.
1:13.6	And we also have the conversation in person which was instructive because this is a conversation that really could have run off the rails
1:21.4	as you'll hear Russell and I disagree about many fundamental things.
1:26.5	If I had done this over the internet on my podcast, this could well have been one of those conversations that went into the ditch
1:33.6	like my conversation with Maryam Nemazi or the one with Omar Aziz which I titled the best podcast ever, ironically.
1:43.2	But the vibes were quite good. Russell's a very nice guy. I really enjoyed meeting him.
1:48.6	So there's the paradox here of real disagreement at points kept on the rails by nice face to face, rapport.
1:58.8	That is instructive for me going forward. I think it's useful to consider which podcasts I should do in person
2:05.7	and which I should do online. But for better or worse, this is a podcast that will frustrate many of you.
2:14.4	There's a fair amount of talking over one another. A fair amount of him talking over me, no doubt.
2:20.4	There's not a real meeting of the minds on some of the foundational issues here, morally and politically.
2:27.8	Anyway, this is the conversation that many of you expected Russell and I would have.
2:33.4	So I will bring you that now. I have one announcement to make. Speaking of experiments and conversation,
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