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Moral Maze

The Rules - Expectations and Apologies

Moral Maze

BBC

Society & Culture, Religion & Spirituality

4.4623 Ratings

🗓️ 20 January 2022

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

In spite of his apology the calls continue for the Prime Minister to resign. He did not follow his own rules so he must go, says a sizeable majority in the polls. But why must he go? Sympathy, understanding and forgiveness are all virtues to celebrate - unless we happen to be talking about people we don’t like. Most of those who broke the lockdown rules (maybe you, maybe me) got away with it. Some got a caution or a fine; very few lost their jobs.

The charge against Boris Johnson is not so much that he broke the law as that he crossed a moral boundary. So, what are the moral rules he is accused of breaking? And why isn’t his very public apology deemed by some to be not good enough?

Anthropology tells us that the basic rules of morality are universal. But sociologists say that cultural norms dictate how we’re expected to behave, and Britain is culturally diverse. Given that politics is almost by definition an interplay of pragmatism and integrity, perhaps we should learn to live with our politicians’ clay feet and look elsewhere for paragons of moral virtue? With former Conservative MP Edwina Currie, Anthropologist Dr Oliver Scott Curry, Political theorist Dr Stephen de Vijze and Philosophy professor Quassim Cassam.

Produced by Olive Clancy

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0:00.0

BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, Podcasts.

0:04.8

Good evening. You didn't have to be thirsty to work at number 10, but it probably helped.

0:09.5

A hangover in every sense from the drinking culture that infused most high-pressure organisations,

0:14.8

though not the BBC, of course, my word no, in past decades.

0:18.4

That conviviality seems to have survived in Downing Street, long after its occupants

0:22.5

struggling to contain the COVID pandemic had banned it for the rest of us. The Prime Minister

0:27.2

stands accused of breaking his own rules. If proved, Winegate may not stand as high on the

0:33.1

index of political wrongdoing as, say, Watergate, but many think it could be curtains just the same.

0:38.9

The argument for the seriousness of rule-breaking is that rules reflect a moral consensus, and basic

0:44.2

rules are universal. So breaking them means crossing a moral as well as a legal boundary,

0:49.8

the more so for a leader who sets rules which entails suffering for those who do obey.

0:55.5

Sociologists will say, though, that how we're expected to behave and the rules shaped by those

1:00.0

expectations are essentially a cultural matter. In a culturally diverse society, there's less

1:05.1

likely to be general agreement about them, and it's less serious to break rules that reflect

1:09.4

a culture we don't share. And what should

1:11.9

happen to rule breakers? Is it enough to acknowledge, apologise, move on? Most people who broke

1:17.9

these rules got away with it after all. But should it be existential for somebody in politics,

1:24.0

which often seems to require a compromise between pragmatism and integrity.

1:28.4

For a Prime Minister, so many voted for, knowing he was hardly a stickler for rules of any kind.

1:34.3

Rules and morality, the moral maze tonight, our panel, Melanie Phillips, social commentator at the Times,

1:39.6

Mona Siddiqui, Professor of Islamic and Interreligious Studies at Edinburgh University,

1:43.9

Anne McElvoy, senior editor at The Economist, and the Chief Executive of the NHS Confederation, Matthew Taylor.

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