Welcome to the intersection of faith and the culture as wall builders are taking on

the hot topics of the day from a biblical historical and constitutional perspective.

My name is Rick Gray.

I'm America's Constitution Codes, former Texas legislator.

Normally here with David and Tim Barton, David is America's premier historian and our founder

here wall builders and Tim, of course, national speaker and pastor and president of wall

builders.

I say normally with them because today we're going to bring you a little sneak peek from

the tavern again.

You know, we've done this I think once, maybe twice, where we actually shared an interview

from my show The Tavern that I do with Warrior Poets Society Network and with their permission

and Patriot use permission.

We like to give at least part of some of those interviews that are just incredible.

They're in the tavern where we talk about revolutionary strategies and tactics to restore

America's constitutional republic and we love to bring some of that to you here on wall

builders because we love our wall builders audience.

And John Cooper from skillet joined me in the tavern.

We had a great discussion, clanked mugs and man just talked about a lot of cool stuff, including

his new book.

So we're going to we're going to just share some of that with you here today on wall

builders.

Let's dive right in.

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