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Welcome to this special edition of CyberwireX, where we explore the evolving intersection of cybersecurity strategy and cutting-edge technology.

I'm Dave Bittner.

Today, we're diving into how zero-trust and artificial intelligence are reshaping the way organizations protect their data and streamline their operations.

My guest is Deepen Desai, Chief Security Officer at Z-Scaler,

who joins us to unpack how AI-driven zero trust can go beyond access control

to deliver smarter, faster, and more unified data protection.

We'll discuss how this approach helps security teams automatically

discover sensitive data

without manually building dictionaries

or policies, all while

rapidly diagnosing user experience issues,

saving time, money, and more than a few headaches

along the way. Stay with us. Deepen, it is always great to catch up with you. I would love to start off with the big picture here.

I mean, Zero Trust has been top of mind for a lot of security folks for years now.

But I'm curious, how is AI changing what that actually looks like in practice?

Hey, thank you, Dave.

AI is changing the way folks think about zero trust and overall productivity in a huge way.

Our CEO likes to call it a gigawave, just like we've gone through several different major changes,

whether it started with industry revolution, and then there was cloud, and then now we're an age where it's AI.

And it's a huge exponential change that we're going through in every aspect when it comes to productivity, efficiency,

and even the risk side of the element where as we use AI,

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