Hey y'all, it's Brittany. If it sounds kind of weird, it's because I'm sitting in the back of a car with my family trying to figure out what the hell just happened.

I mean, I know we completely expected this and yet just because you know injustice is coming

doesn't mean that it stings any less when it finally does. In moments like these

it's all the more important to find our hope, to find our faith so that we can keep up the fight.

We had exactly that kind of conversation. Our friend and journalist Philip Picardy led

myself, Reverend Dr. Jackie Lewis, the senior pastor of Middle Church,

and Jamie L. Mason, the president of Catholics for choice,

in a conversation about how we do exactly that,

because in times like these, we need to fight and we meet each other.

Here's a little bit of our conversation together and make sure you check out the

show notes this week because there will be some important actions

that you can take to protect all of our access to abortion and protect all of our

bodily autonomy. So Reverend Jackie, you recently noted that the Supreme Court seems to be sort of throwing us into a

the theocracy.

Can you explain what you meant by that?

These folks have been playing a long game for a long time

to place on the court people who they knew would make decisions that would roll back the civil rights

wins if you will of the 60s and 80s and so here we are I think living out and I'm going to call it a fake Christianity or

Christianity-ish kind of theology that is actually a theocracy the court is not behaving as a neutral party,

it is behaving as an instrument of white,

evangelical, Christianity,

enforcing its will on the people as demagogues.

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