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The Robot Race - Part 2: How should humanity flourish in an AI world? - Nigel Crook & Anil Seth

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🗓️ 22 September 2023

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

The Big Conversation - Episode 6 | Season 5 In this special two-parter, we explore "The Robot Race". Are developments in Artificial Intelligence spiralling out of control, and what can we learn about ourselves - the human race - in light of AI's rapidly expanding capabilities? Here, in part two, we debate the nature of human consciousness and free will - comparing it to AI and robotics - and ask how humanity should best flourish now that the AI genie is out of the bottle. Speaking into this issue, from two very different perspectives, is Christian believer Nigel Crook, Professor in Artificial Intelligence & Robotics at Oxford Brookes University and author of "Rise of the Moral Machine: Exploring Virtue through a Robot's Eyes"; and atheist Anil Seth, Professor of Cognitive & Computational Neuroscience at the University of Sussex, winner of The Michael Faraday Prize and Lecture 2023, and author of "Being You: A New Science of Consciousness". If you missed Part 1, catch up here: https://www.thebigconversation.show/videos/season-5/episode-5 • For bonus content, updates and more shows sign up at: http://www.thebigconversation.show • Take our survey! https://survey-star.co.uk/robotrace2 The Big Conversation is a video series from Premier Unbelievable? featuring world-class thinkers across the religious and non-religious community. Exploring science, faith, philosophy and what it means to be human. The Big Conversation is produced by Premier Unbelievable? in partnership with John Templeton Foundation. • For Nigel Crook: https://ntcrook.com • For Anil Seth: https://www.anilseth.com • For more robotics by Boston Dynamics: https://www.youtube.com/@BostonDynamics • Subscribe to the Unbelievable? podcast: https://pod.link/267142101 • More shows, free eBook & newsletter: https://premierunbelievable.com • For live events: http://www.unbelievable.live • For online learning: https://www.premierunbelievable.com/training • Support us in the USA: http://www.premierinsight.org/unbelievableshow • Support us in the rest of the world: https://www.premierunbelievable.com/donate

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I really don't think that AI as it is now is on a trajectory to becoming conscious but it will certainly seem as though machines have conscious minds and that's a danger.

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If consciousness is a property of the brain then it's subject to what we call causal determinism, physical determinism.

1:04.0

This idea of libertarian free will I think is entirely wrong and I also think it's unnecessary.

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These systems will become more and more like us. People will treat them and want them to be treated as all their human.

1:15.0

The challenge now is it seems to be going faster and faster.

1:18.0

We are terrible at projecting out long-term consequences.

1:21.0

Robot rights, I can see it coming.

1:26.0

Hello and welcome to Unbelievable, the show that gets Christians and non-Christians talking.

1:31.0

I'm Peter Byram and today we conclude our special big conversation to part of the robot race.

1:38.0

In part one, Christian professor Nigel Krug and atheist professor Aneel Seth discussed the question,

1:45.0

could artificial intelligence ever replace humanity and were mostly on the same page.

1:50.0

This time however, we get to hear how their views fundamentally diverge as they debate the nature of human consciousness

1:59.0

and how it compares to the capabilities of robots as we consider the question,

2:04.0

how should humanity flourish in an AI world?

2:08.0

As mentioned in part one, this isn't the first time that Nigel Krug has appeared on the big conversation.

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In season four, Dr John Wyatt and Lord Martin Rees had a fascinating discussion about robotics, transhumanism and the future of humanity

2:23.0

during which they gave their reactions to some highlights of an interview that Nigel did with Justin Briely,

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