But I think a lot of the things that we saw in Tokyo fit into those larger patterns that

you're talking about, whether it's debt, displacement, militarization, greenwashing, which

we absolutely need to talk about, and then just sort of the boxing out of everyday people

from actually experiencing their normal lives that are, you know, they have to put on hold

in order to make way for the Olympics.

Welcome to the Edge of Sports podcast. I'm Dave Ziren. This week we speak to the author of Power Games,

Jules Boykhov. Jules and I together are just back from Tokyo, where we were investigating the

prep for the 2020 Olympics, the summer games, which will be held in that amazing city. We're going to

talk about what we saw in Tokyo, and Jules and I wrote a series of articles for

the nation about it, which you can access at the nation.com, and we are going to discuss. Also,

we have just stand up and just sit down awards and more, but first, let's go to the thorn in the

side of the International Olympic Committee, Jules Boykhov.

Jules Boykopf, the most important question. We're just back from Tokyo. How are you doing with the jet lag?

I managed to do all right, actually. I must have gotten lucky somehow. I don't know how I did it.

Boo. For those of us who suffered. We resent you.

So, and then the second most important question, Jules, about our sojourn to the amazing city of Tokyo.

Now, you don't drink or eat meat, and I was downing sake and sushi.

So the first question I want to know is, how annoying was I?

Dave, you were a total pleasure to travel with. Truly, you were. And, you know, I have to say,

it was interesting being in Tokyo. I thought it was going to be a little easier to be a vegetarian.

But hey, it's not, actually. But we made it work. So a lot of real nice patient

people there in Tokyo who are willing to help me out. There was the one guy at that sushi bar who

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