The River Retreat Lodge with John and Liz Douville (Traveled #38)
Wet Fly Swing Fly Fishing Podcast
Dave Stewart
4.7 • 530 Ratings
🗓️ 2 January 2026
⏱️ 58 minutes
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Presented by: Yellowstone Teton Territory - Visit Idaho
If you're trying to figure out where you can find giant stoneflies in July, chase technical midge eaters in March, and explore private spring creeks, all while staying in a five-star lodge that's not priced like Jackson Hole, this episode shows you exactly where that place exists.
Today we're heading into Swan Valley, right in the heart of one of the most epic fishing zones in the West, with John and Liz Douville, owners of River Retreat Lodge. We dig into how they ended up buying a lodge in the middle of COVID, why March might actually be one of the best fishing months of the year, and how this area quietly sits at the crossroads of the South Fork, spring creeks, big wildlife, and wide-open country.
Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/863
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| 0:00.0 | If you're trying to figure out where you can find giant stoneflies in July chase mid-eaters in March and explore private spring creeks, all while staying in a five-star lodge that isn't priced like Jackson Hole. |
| 0:13.5 | This episode shows you exactly where that place exists. |
| 0:16.5 | Before they ever own the River Retreat Lodge, Liz and John DeVille were on two very different |
| 0:21.9 | paths. Liz building a career in hospitality, accounting, and marketing and John spending decades |
| 0:26.8 | fishing everywhere from Vermont Troutwater to the small hidden creeks above Jackson. |
| 0:31.4 | They didn't know it then, but those early casts, those long days guiding in the upper |
| 0:35.1 | snake, and even buying a lodge in mid-COVID would eventually put them right in the center of one of the most epic fishing zones in the west. |
| 0:43.0 | Hey, I'm Dave, host of the Travel Podcast series exploring the waters, the people, and places that define the spirit of fly fishing. |
| 0:49.8 | And today that story takes us into Swan Valley, a mile from the South Fork, Minutes from Palisades Creek, |
| 0:54.5 | an hour from the Henry's Fork and surrounded by Spring Creek's, Raptor Habitat, Big Game, Wildlife, |
| 1:00.1 | Range, National Parks. In this episode, you're going to find out how Liz and John came to be owners |
| 1:05.6 | of this lodge, what makes March midge fishing so technical. We're going to get into the |
| 1:10.0 | Stonefly hatch and how that plays out throughout the year |
| 1:12.9 | and why you might want to think about getting a day |
| 1:15.6 | on private water with John. |
| 1:17.3 | This episode is presented by Visit Idaho |
| 1:19.0 | and Yellowstone-Teton Territory, |
| 1:20.8 | home to some of the most storied |
| 1:22.1 | and scenic trout waters of the American West. |
| 1:24.6 | All right, let's get into it. |
| 1:25.7 | You can find Liz and John at river |
| 1:28.3 | retreat lodge.com. How are you both doing? We're doing great. Excellent. Awesome. Yeah, this is |
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