Friends welcome back to the Ransom-Heart podcast John Eldridge this week with

Alan Arnold and John Dale in the conversation. From time to time we try and bring things from our own journals, from our own living experiences.

I mean in some ways everything we do here is that, but you once in a while we we try and bring something to you all that is

Proving to be super important in at least in our life and in our experience in the world and our life with God and this is one of those

podcasts that it fits that category, right?

Yep.

A scale of one to 10.

Yes, this is a 10 last year. 11. Yeah, this, we do think the significance of

this is is great and so it's in love and some humility that we want to want to bring

something we've been experiencing and and then how we've been responding to it.

It requires going back and telling a story. So it was very interesting. This morning I was actually doing another interview for somebody else's podcast and they asked me the question, you know, you've been writing for a number of years now, a couple decades, a number of books.

Have you ever thought about quitting? Is that ever go through your mind?

Then I smiled and I said, funny, you should ask ask that because it was about a year ago that both

Stacy and I found ourselves having conversations, you know in the kitchen,

sort of cattle conversations that would go like this.

I think we're done.

I think we're done.

I don't want to do this anymore.

And I had a, at the beginning of of last year I had a devotional coming out that was actually a very beautiful little book and it's well constructed.

Stacy Burton on our team helped to design it and help bring it all together. It's beautiful.

My attitude was, I don't care. I don't care how it goes. And I was aware enough

to go, that doesn't sound like me, right?

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