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The Indicator from Planet Money

The risk of private equity in your 401(k)

The Indicator from Planet Money

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4.79.2K Ratings

🗓️ 30 July 2025

⏱️ 9 minutes

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Summary

Private equity is a risky business. There are high-highs and low-lows. A retirement plan, on the other hand, is meant to be a reliable beast. But President Trump believes your 401(k) can handle it! On today's show, the president's expected executive order could help offer some legal cover for fund managers who include private equity in your retirement portfolio. What are the risks and benefits?

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0:00.0

NPR.

0:02.0

This is the indicator from planet money on Darym Woods.

0:14.6

And I'm Patty Hirsch.

0:15.7

Private equity.

0:16.7

To some people, private equity funds are sober agents of efficiency and corporate optimization.

0:22.0

To others, they're a horde of asset-stripping barbarians, intent on draining every penny of value out of vulnerable enterprises like, I don't know, local newspapers and Little League.

0:32.3

Yeah, the phrase private equity brings a lot of emotion.

0:36.2

And whichever side of the fence you're on, the point is

0:39.4

they are private. They're mysterious, risky and expensive. Not the kind of thing your average

0:45.3

investor should be sticking their nose into, you might think. Except that's not what the president

0:50.7

thinks. It appears Mr. Trump thinks we can handle private equity. Which is why he's

0:56.2

reportedly on the point of issuing an executive order that could allow investment plans like your

1:01.1

401k, Darien, to include a private equity option. On today's show, we'll look at the potential

1:05.9

risks and benefits of 401k investments in private equity, why the president might be issuing an executive

1:11.9

order to make it happen, and whether he even really needs to. That's all coming up after the break.

1:22.1

Investment plans offered by companies to workers, like 401Ks, typically only invest in highly regulated,

1:29.2

publicly traded securities.

1:30.9

Stock traded on a public exchange like the New York Stock Exchange or the NASDAQ, or bonds regulated

1:36.9

by the Securities and Exchange Commission.

1:39.5

The reason, ERISA.

1:41.4

So it stands for the Employee Retirement Income Security Act. This is Anita Mukherjee. She's an

1:46.8

associate professor in the Department of Risk and Insurance at the Wisconsin School of Business.

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