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Political Thinking with Nick Robinson

The Rishi Sunak One

Political Thinking with Nick Robinson

BBC

News, Politics

4.62.4K Ratings

🗓️ 11 October 2019

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

The Chief Secretary to the Treasury on why the Wirral meeting may go down in history, loosening the purse strings and his knowledge of The Force

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0:00.0

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As a boy from the North West, I swell with pride at the idea that that summit between

0:10.6

Boris and Leo, the one that said there's a pathway to a deal, may take on historic significance.

0:18.6

And my guest on the podcast this week seems to agree.

0:22.0

I think this is hugely successful.

0:23.6

I look forward to the Whirl joining that great pantheon of places where, you know, Versailles

0:29.1

and Vienna and Camp David, where they, where the Accord, they're all done.

0:33.4

That's Rishi Sunak, Chief Secretary to the Treasury, more from him, in a little while.

0:40.4

When people talk about whether there's a deal or not, they can obsess about the detail

0:45.4

of what that deal would look like.

0:47.8

But before you even reach that, there are calculations that have to be made.

0:53.5

The calculations from each side about whether they're better off now or would be in a better

0:59.0

position later.

1:01.3

The Irish are trying to work out whether it is better to do a deal with Boris Johnson

1:07.0

now or to wait for Parliament to block him to see if there is then a second referendum

1:14.4

or a new government with a different mandate or even that Boris Johnson gets a large

1:19.2

enough majority that he no longer has to worry about the DUP, he no longer has to worry

1:24.6

about his hard line anti-European rebels.

1:28.9

He will have greater room for manoeuvre.

1:32.0

And there's an important calculation taking place in Downing Street now.

1:36.8

Is it better to get out on the promised date on October 31st, even with a deal that

1:43.2

a few weeks ago would have looked pretty unattractive?

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