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Culture Study Podcast

The Rise of Therapy Speak

Culture Study Podcast

Culture Study Podcast

Society & Culture, Arts

4.5789 Ratings

🗓️ 1 January 2025

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

No matter where you spend your time, online or off, you’ve encountered some form of therapy speak. Maybe it comes from a friend who loves processing their therapy with others; maybe it suffuses your TikTok FYP; maybe your friends or family members have been using it to try and describe how they’re trying to foster and maintain healthy relationships; or maybe you’ve just been keeping up on the latest celebrity gossip. It’s everywhere — and as you’ll find in this episode, tracing its proliferation will lead you in so many fascinating (and complex!) directions. I’ll be real: I knew this episode would be interesting; I didn’t know it would be this interesting.As soon as I heard about the new podcast Bad Therapist — cohosted by psychotherapist Ash Compton and New Yorker journalist Rachel Monroe — I knew they’d be the perfect people to help answer all of your questions about therapy speak. This is complicated shit! We’re talking about language that is often super useful to people… but can also be weaponized (GAH, THERAPY SPEAK) to inoculate those using it from critique. Weirdly, I feel like it’s the perfect New Year’s Day episode? I can’t wait to hear your thoughts about all of it.Show Notes:Listen to Bad Therapist! Start with the intro ep (just 12 minutes); my fave ep thus far is the one on “Shadow Work”Read Rachel Monroe’s stunning collection of writing at The New YorkerAn overview of Ashlyn Harris’s “disassociating” comments re: her relationship with Ali KriegerA smart piece on the Jonah Hill therapy speak / connection to his therapy documentaryThe famous/infamous/memeable Wicked “holding space” junket interview with Tracy E. Gilchrist (and the subsequent breakdown of the meme with Grande and Erivo)The Rachel Aviv book Ash and Rachel mention is Strangers to Ourselves: Unsettled Minds and the Stories that Make UsThe 2005 Vanity Fair profile of Jennifer Aniston that lives in my head rent-freeNicole Daniels is the comedian I mention re: non-profit boss impersonations. Here’s a recent fav:And here’s the TikTok that opened the showWe’re currently looking for your questions for future episodes about:Pre-Teen/Tween Influencer CultureRUNNING CULTURE (you can take this in any direction you’d like — good, bad, ambivalent, we’re talking to Raziq Rauf so it’s gonna rule)Pivoting from my beloved Paul Mescal…..can we just talk about Irish Pop Culturification (including Paul)Budget Culture + Specifically Budget Rules You Want/Need To Destabilize or Break EntirelyGetting into old movies!!!! Tell us why you want to get into them, why you find it difficult, and a few recent-ish movies so we can hand-pick recommendations for youContemporary ideas of self-care (remember this newsletter?)Dad culture, whatever that means to youAnything you need advice or want musings on for the AAA segmentYou can submit them (and ideas for future eps) here (this is the subscriber-only form!)For today’s discussion: What part of therapy speak do you find useful and/or grating? Why do you think it bugs you — or what has it helped explain?I’ll also add that we tried to be very, very careful in the way we talked about terms, diagnoses, and experiences that are often very personal and very sensitive (for very good reason!). I hope we can be thoughtful about the way that we talk about all of this here in the discussion, too.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey everyone. This is Anne. This is a special New Year's Day episode of the Culture Study podcast. At first, we were like, do we want to put anything out on this day? It's kind of a weird day. Also, we want to avoid like any sort of, I don't know, cliche or gross resolution content. But then we figured out that we were taping an episode about therapy speak

0:22.2

and how in a weird way this is a perfect episode for the beginning of the new year. And there's

0:28.7

also a great ask and anything discussion at the end, which is actually about resolutions. So

0:33.4

stay tuned. This is a really fun and interesting and complicated episode. I know that sounds weird. It's all three things at once, but it's possible. And I can't wait to hear your thoughts.

0:45.0

Thank you for feeling comfortable to share that with me. But I will respectfully be withdrawing my engagement on this specific issue in order to maintain the emotional bandwidth required to keep my growth and health and well-being furthering in this current period.

1:06.0

So I respect you to go forward with that in your own space, but I will be withdrawing my engagement

1:13.5

in this current instance.

1:22.5

Hi, everyone.

1:23.6

This is the Culture Study podcast, and I'm Anne Helen Peterson.

1:27.1

I'm Ash Compton, a licensed

1:28.6

psychotherapist and cultural theorist and the co-host of the podcast Bad Therapist. And I'm Rachel

1:33.8

Monroe. I'm a writer at The New Yorker and also a co-host of Bad Therapist. I love the show.

1:39.0

It's perfect listening for when you're making dinner. And it's just a perfect accompaniment and calming because you two are also friends.

1:48.1

And I always love that in a show when the people who are doing the show are actually friends.

1:52.8

Yeah, there's a deep bed of references.

1:56.1

We try not to do, right, a lot of lore.

1:58.6

Try not to do too many inside jokes.

2:00.9

Well, my favorite was like in the intro to the show, you do like this 12 minute, like basically like this is what the show is going to be.

2:09.9

And you talk about your own bad therapists. And the story about the person in Baltimore who, Rachel, you were going to them and all of your friends

2:20.1

were also going to them and like to so that Ash could get the reference you said the name of the

2:25.5

person and then you bleeped it out after the fact like it's exactly how if I were describing a story

2:30.5

to my best friend like how I would do that so I really loved that but can you just say a little bit about how you, like how I would do that. So I really loved that.

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