The Rise of Technofascists
The David Frum Show
The Atlantic
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🗓️ 1 October 2025
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| 1:01.3 | Hello, and welcome to the David From Show. I'm David From, a staff writer at The Atlantic. |
| 1:06.5 | My guest this week will be Sam Harris, and we'll discuss the turn in the politics of Silicon Valley, |
| 1:13.5 | away from some of the hopeful politics that prevailed in the past to a dark authoritarian politics that determines the present. |
| 1:19.9 | Sam will help me to understand why this happened and how and what it may mean for the politics of the rest of the country. |
| 1:25.2 | In the book section, I'll be discussing a 1999 historical classic by Robert Proctor. |
| 1:28.5 | But before getting to those subjects of the middle and the end of the show, I want to open with some preliminary thoughts about the recent malicious prosecution of James Comey by the Trump |
| 1:35.6 | administration. Now, this podcast will release on the 1st of October, and by then, we may be in a government |
| 1:41.4 | shutdown. If that does happen, I will have some thoughts next week on what happened and why and what to do about it. But I don't want to speculate here about hypothetical contingencies when we have this glaring, shocking event from the recent past that needs to be discussed a little bit. And what I want to add to this conversation is a lot has been said. Some of it, I've been on television and I've done some writing about it for the Atlantic. |
| 2:01.2 | I want to put this story of this malicious prosecution into a larger institutional context, a global context. |
| 2:08.9 | Now, what happened to James Comey is something that really could not happen in most other developed countries. |
| 2:15.2 | I mean, imagine, supposing you're, for example, the chancellor of |
| 2:18.2 | Germany and you decide you want to indict a political opponent, how would you go about doing it? |
| 2:24.2 | Well, the short answer is you couldn't. And if you tried, you'd probably end up in handcuffs yourself. |
| 2:29.8 | Because the person who handles all the prosecutions in Germany, to whom every one of the hundreds of |
| 2:34.9 | German federal prosecutor's answers, is a director of public prosecutions. It's got a very |
| 2:40.0 | complicated German title, but that's the basic idea. This person is typically a career civil servant. |
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