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The Ben Ferguson Podcast

The Rise of Radical Islam in America-One on One w Ayaan Hirsi Ali

The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Politics, News, News Commentary

4.94.7K Ratings

🗓️ 29 October 2025

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

1. Ayaan Hirsi Ali’s Personal Journey:

  • Born in Somalia in 1969, raised in a Muslim household.
  • Fled to the Netherlands in 1992 to escape a forced marriage.
  • Became a Dutch citizen, studied political science, and served in the Dutch Parliament.
  • Transitioned from Islam to atheism, and later converted to Christianity.
  • Currently a research fellow at the Hoover Institution and founder of the AHA Foundation.

2. Defining Political Islam vs. Islam as a Religion:

  • Hirsi Ali distinguishes between Islam as a religion and Islamism (political Islam).
  • She describes Islamism as a totalitarian ideology aiming to establish Islamic dominance globally.
  • Emphasizes the threat posed by groups like the Muslim Brotherhood, which she compares to a “termite infestation” due to their subversive tactics.

3. The Muslim Brotherhood:

  • Founded in 1928 by Hassan al-Banna in Egypt.
  • Described as a decentralized, global movement using both peaceful and violent means to infiltrate societies.
  • Hirsi Ali and Cruz advocate for its designation as a terrorist organization in the U.S.

4. The Red-Green Alliance:

  • A term used to describe the alliance between radical Islamists (green) and Marxist/communist groups (red).
  • Hirsi Ali warns that this alliance is strategically dangerous and aims to undermine Western democratic institutions.

5. Sharia Law and Its Implications:

  • Hirsi Ali outlines the oppressive nature of Sharia law, especially toward women and LGBTQ individuals.
  • She warns of the potential consequences if Islamist ideologies gain influence in Western societies.

6. Islamist Influence in Europe and the U.S.:

  • Hirsi Ali and Cruz discuss the rise of Islamist influence in European cities and the potential for similar developments in the U.S.
  • They express concern over political figures like Zohran Mamdani and Ilhan Omar, suggesting they represent the Red-Green alliance.

7. Persecution of Christians in Nigeria:

  • Cruz and Hirsi Ali highlight the mass murder of Christians by Boko Haram and other Islamist groups.
  • They criticize the Nigerian government for its inaction and call for U.S. sanctions and accountability.

8. Recognition of Somaliland:

  • Hirsi Ali supports recognizing Somaliland as an independent nation.
  • She praises its democratic governance, stability, and alignment with Western values.

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:05.4

Welcome. It is verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you. And today's episode

0:10.0

is going to be a very special one with a very special guest. And I hope that you will take

0:14.2

this episode and share it on social media. Also, if you want to watch it on YouTube, it's there.

0:19.7

Because, Senator, we're dealing with a very

0:21.4

important and also a very tough subject right now that is on the minds of a lot of Americans. And I want

0:27.4

you to explain why we decide to do this show and also introduce our guest. Well, we're going to be

0:33.4

focusing today on the rise of radical Islam in America and also the rise of radical Islam

0:39.1

across the globe and and we're going to talk about comrade mandami who we devoted the entire

0:45.6

last podcast to his rise in New York to the very real possibility that we will have a

0:52.0

communist a Marxist jihadist as the next mayor of New York, and how frightening

0:57.2

that is. We're going to talk also about the Muslim Brotherhood and what the Muslim Brotherhood is

1:01.4

and why I am leading the fight to have the Muslim Brotherhood declared a terrorist organization.

1:08.0

We're going to talk about what's happening in Nigeria, about the systematic mass murder of Christians in Nigeria by Boko Haram and other radical Islamic terrorists.

1:17.6

And we're also going to talk about Somalia and the prospect of America recognizing Somaliland and how we can fight back against extremist forces in Africa.

1:30.2

And all of that, we're going to have this conversation with a special guest.

1:33.0

So our guest today is Ayyarsi Ali.

1:36.6

Ayan was born in Mogadishu, Somalia, in 1969.

1:42.1

She grew up and she was raised as a Muslim. And as she got older,

1:47.0

she began to question aspects of her faith. One day, while listening to a sermon on the many

1:53.7

ways women should be obedient to their husbands, she couldn't resist asking, must our husbands obey us also?

2:01.6

In 1992, Ayyann fled to the Netherlands to escape a forced marriage.

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