The Rise of Mexican Drug Cartels (with Ioan Grillo)

Change Agents with Andy Stumpf

IRONCLAD

Society & Culture

4.8 • 607 Ratings

🗓️ 14 November 2023

⏱️ 76 minutes

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On the edition of the Narco Wars series, Andy Stumpf sits down with investigative journalist Ioan Grillo. Based in Mexico City, he has been covering drug cartels since 2001 for news outlets such as the New York Times, France 24, National Geographic, Time Magazine, Esquire, CNN, Reuters, The Associated Press, and many others. Ioan is the author of three books: Blood Gun Money: How America Arms Gangs and Cartels, Gangster Warlords: Drug Dollars, Killing Fields, and the New Politics in Latin America, and El Narco: Inside Mexico’s Criminal Insurgency. He also helped produce the television series and documentaries Blood on the Wall, Barrios Beats and Blood, and Inside Narco Wars. You can find more of his work on his Substack, CrashOutMedia, and on the CrimeWar podcast. SPONSOR: Change Agents is presented by Montana Knife Company. Use CODE "CHANGEAGENTS10" for 10% off your first order at https://www.montanaknifecompany.com/ MTNTOUGH Go to https://mtntough.com/ and enter code CHANGEAGENTS to receive 40% OFF - a savings of about $100 your MTNTOUGH+ annual subscription. FABRIC Life Insurance Join the thousands of parents who trust Fabric to protect their family. https://www.meetfabric.com/changeagents Subscribe to the podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/change-agents-with-andy-stumpf/id1677415740 Shop IRONCLAD Apparel: https://shop.thisisironclad.com/ Change Agents is an IRONCLAD original. Visit https://www.thisisironclad.com to learn more. Be sure to subscribe to @thisisironclad on YouTube and major social platforms. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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1:01.2	They can be there. You can be in these places and see them quite openly walking around in camo gear with AK-47s and grenade laws, that kind of thing.
1:10.7	Then the military can go in there and these guys can disappear.
1:15.3	So they're not controlling a territory to the point this, you know,
1:19.5	sometimes stopping the military going. The military can go in there.
1:23.0	Then the guys can just disappear into the hills, disappear into houses.
1:27.4	Then the military goes away and they come back out again. guys can just disappear into the hills, disappear into houses, then the minute if it goes
1:28.2	away and they come back out again.
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