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Change Agents with Andy Stumpf

The Reality of the Narco Wars (with Jaeson Jones)

Change Agents with Andy Stumpf

IRONCLAD

Society & Culture

4.8607 Ratings

🗓️ 7 November 2023

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

On today’s Change Agents, an IRONCLAD original, Andy Stumpf sits down with Jaeson Jones. Jaeson is a border expert with over 25 years of experience working on the U.S.’s southwest border and is a retired Captain from the Texas Department of Public Safety’s Intelligence and Counter Terrorism Division. Jaseon has supervised numerous Human Intelligence (HUMINT) operations in multiple nations and led the longest 24/7 border operation in Texas history: Operation Secure Texas, a border security effort between the Texas Department of Public Safety, the Texas National Guard, and federal law enforcement.He spearheaded investigations targeting Mexican cartels' leadership and collaborates with the U.S. Intelligence community to save both Mexican and American lives threatened by cartel violence. This summer, he testified before the House Homeland Security Committee about the radical evolution of Mexican drug cartels and the dangers they pose to the people of the United States and Mexico. You can watch the testimony here: https://twitter.com/alexdatig/status/1682836233662214147 On in part one of the Narco Wars series, Jaeson explains what’s really going on at the U.S. Southern Border. SPONSOR: Change Agents is presented by Montana Knife Company. Use CODE "CHANGEAGENTS10" for 10% off your first order at https://www.montanaknifecompany.com/ Fabric Life Insurance Join the thousands of parents who trust Fabric to protect their family. Apply today in just minutes https://hello.meetfabric.com/term-life-insurance-partner-changeagents?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=paid&utm_campaign=premium_podcast_vanityurl&utm_content=changeagents Subscribe to the podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/change-agents-with-andy-stumpf/id1677415740 Shop IRONCLAD Apparel: https://shop.thisisironclad.com/ Change Agents is an IRONCLAD original. Visit https://www.thisisironclad.com to learn more. Be sure to subscribe to @thisisironclad on YouTube and major social platforms. Follow us on Social - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thisisironclad Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThisIsIRONCLAD Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thisisironclad TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thisisironclad Subscribe to our Newsletter: https://thisisironclad.com/newsletter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

We're going to have to get tough and I mean damn tough because these people are no joke.

0:03.8

They go through basic intermediate advanced training and they are fighting for survival every day.

0:09.6

I wish you could sit down with me and one of them and listen to them talk.

0:14.0

The words they use are we are at war.

0:18.2

Now that's their perception.

0:20.3

I don't care what anybody says. Their perception matters because they're training every day. They're engaged in battles every day. I just got off the phone with Lieutenant Chris Olivettis. You may not be familiar with him. He's the Texas Department of Public Safety's Public Information Officer. And we stormed with the Texas Rangers last week, an island known as Fronton Island. It is ground zero for the most violent region on the southwest border. And it's 170 acres. And the reason we stormed the island is because we were taking it back from cartel down that estate, who was using it to move everything from improvised explosive devices, weapons south, guns south, but also to use it as a sanctuary to move

0:56.0

methamphetamine and fentanyl in cocaine into the country.

0:59.0

How can I help? How can I be useful in ending needless suffering? Do not be afraid of work that has no end.

1:09.0

We have to organize a social movement.

1:15.6

We have an opportunity to lead by example versus just talking, hot air.

1:21.6

I think the more people in this fight, the more we grow, eventually it could change.

1:25.6

The people are the ones that can make the change

1:34.2

welcome back everybody to change agents an ironclad original presented by a montana knife company this

1:41.0

episode is part of our special series narco, where each week we're going to be

1:46.4

taking a look at the threats that cartels pose to the people of both Mexico and the United

1:51.9

States and how they can be stopped. My guest today is Jason Jones. Jason is a border expert

1:58.8

with over 25 years of experience working on the U.S. Southwest

2:02.5

border and is a retired captain from the Texas Department of Public Safety's Intelligence

2:07.9

and Counterterrorism Division.

2:10.4

He has supervised numerous human intelligence, also known as Humint Operations, in multiple

2:15.4

nations, and then led the longest 24-7 border operation

2:19.8

in Texas history, Operation Secure Texas, which was a border security effort between the Texas

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