Long welcome to the Red Men TV in this mad lockdown that we are in.

We are still sponsored by The Athletic and I've got a great show lined up for you today.

This is taken from a Red Men TV subscriber show, it's evergreen content.

It's absolutely brilliant.

It's me and James Pierce, the athletic journalist.

And of course, if you still want your football news,

the athletic is still doing the business.

So for a seven day free trial and 50% of your yearly subscription

goes to the athletic.co. UK forward slash Redmen TV to get that. There's a whole host of wonderful articles being put up there daily,

not just by the Liverpool ads, but by some of the greatest rates in the UK.

But as I mentioned, this show is me and James Pierce

and we talk about the rise and fall of Brendan Rogers.

I think the great thing with Clopiz you know he, he is this great, you know, he has big power at the club, quite rightly so because of what he's achieved, but he's not a control freak. He's not someone that wants it to be all about him he you know he surrounds himself by

really really good people and some people in his position would maybe see

having really good people around him as some kind of threat or you want yes men or whatever but he's he's never been like that.

Well let's draw the parallels to the Brendan Rogers stuff

because I think it actually all ties in rather nicely really is that there's so many stories there of like

him not it may be pulling away from Gerards and Karagaget because you know you

could you can speculate on that but the feeling was that Brendan didn't maybe handle those guys with the big

reputations who had more maybe a bit more power or stature or whatever at the club than him.

Whereas Yeagenkop, I think the peace of minds of being a long term thing or having that long term

contract has allowed them to to kind of develop the players and what have you but

...