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Dan Snow's History Hit

The Rise, Fall and Rise of the Taliban

Dan Snow's History Hit

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4.713.7K Ratings

🗓️ 5 January 2026

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

The Taliban’s return to power in August 2021 shocked the world. But, it was not an abrupt collapse — it was decades in the making. Lyse Doucet has spent her career reporting from the world's war zones and at the key moments in modern history as the BBC's Chief International Correspondent. She's followed the events in Afghanistan for decades and joins Dan to explain the rise of the Taliban from the chaos of the Soviet invasion in the 1980s, through their brutal rule in the 1990s, the impact of American and British intervention after 9/11 and explains how they returned to Kabul in 2021, plunging Afghanistan into another era under their grip. 


Her new book, which explores this history through the lens of the Intercontinental Hotel in Kabul, where both international journalists and the Taliban stay, depending on who is running the country. It's called 'The Finest Hotel in Kabul: A People's History of Afghanistan'


Produced by Mariana Des Forges and edited by Dougal Patmore


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0:00.0

High on a hill overlooking the city of Kabul,

0:09.1

sets a hotel that once hosted Afghanistan's beautiful people.

0:14.9

The rich, the brightest, the models, the actors, the politicians, they lounged by the pool,

0:27.3

the diplomats and the journalists sipped cocktail swapping intel in the gilded bar under the chandeliers.

0:32.7

You can book a room to stay in there now, but just before you do, you should know one or two things.

0:40.3

Those chandeliers are now laden with dust. No power lights up the bulbs. The figures that now sit beneath them are rather different. They're not movie stars.

0:44.3

They are Taliban fighters turned government officials.

0:47.3

When the Taliban took control Afghanistan in August 2021, they took control of the Intercontinental Hotel in Kabul, too. It's now where they meet.

0:58.3

They make plans. They relax on the patio. They do not drink alcoholic beverage or listen to music,

1:03.3

of course. Many of the bedrooms are in a state of decay, broken glass, collapsed ceilings,

1:08.0

spent rounds, shells on the floor.

1:11.9

For a couple of generations, it's been true that whoever's are the custodian in the country

1:15.3

is custodian of that hotel.

1:17.4

And the story of that once grand establishment mirrors that country's recent history.

1:23.0

From a sort of golden age of stability, of prosperity, of entertainment to the 1970s, to the communism

1:30.4

of the 80s, the Taliban of the 90s, the Western supported governments of the naughties. Under all

1:39.3

those changing rulers the last four decades, the hotel has reflected all of those different regimes.

1:47.2

Now, during all those different regimes over the past four decades, the hotel has also welcomed

1:51.5

one very important returning guest, the BBC's chief correspondent, Leis Ducet, global legend.

1:57.7

The journalist, the organisation, calls on to cover all the major events in global history

2:01.8

from the Arab Spring to the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

2:05.7

She first went to Afghanistan in 1988.

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