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Analysis

The Rise and Fall of the Bond Market Traders

Analysis

BBC

News, Politics

4.61K Ratings

🗓️ 19 October 2020

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

In the 1980s, Margaret Thatcher famously said that 'You can’t buck the markets' and Governments back then feared that, if they borrowed too much, they'd pay a terrible price in the markets in terms of higher borrowing costs. But now governments around the world are borrowing record amounts but paying record-low rates. In this programme Philip Coggan examines how the markets were tamed.

Philip talks to Don Kohn, former vice chairman of the Federal Reserve, economist and author Eric Lonergan, Andrew Balls, Chief Investment Officer at Pimco and economist and author Stephanie Kelton.

Producer: Ben Carter Editor: Jasper Corbett

Transcript

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Hello, thanks for listening to this edition of Analysis. podcasts. next half hour I'm going to explore how the markets got tamed.

0:53.4

This is a story about a monster.

1:06.0

Governments believe that if they behave badly, the monster would come and punish them.

1:09.0

But just as parents turn the light on,

1:12.0

to show kids there is nothing in the bedroom cupboard,

1:15.0

governments have realized they don't need to fear the monster after all.

1:22.0

That monster is the markets.

1:24.0

Governments used to fear that if they borrow too much

1:28.0

they would pay a terrible price in terms of higher borrowing costs.

1:32.0

But now governments around the world are borrowing. in terms of higher borrowing costs.

1:32.6

But now governments around the world are borrowing record amounts,

1:35.9

but paying record low interest rates.

1:39.4

I'm Philip Kogan of The Economist,

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