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This podcast explores themes of child abuse, sexual abuse, and trauma.

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Once this process with Jody got into play, it destroyed my whole life.

I was just so messed up emotionally and mentally after Jody Hilda Grant that I was scared of my own name.

There's just kind of this like implicit trust that happens where, you know, my Mormon friend from

church isn't trying to scam me. They're not trying to like harm me because Mormons would never do that.

I'm telling you, I was making millions, and I left it because my kids were being hurt.

With entitlement, they were being hurt.

With people's advice, and they didn't have a mother up the front saying, I don't care what

the world's opinion is.

This is the truth, and this is where I stand.

Jody is always in Ruby's ear.

What am I not hearing?

Why am I want to fight them?

That's your distortion.

That's what comes up in me.

Anytime I want to fight someone, I'm like, stop, Jody's top.

Why am I getting so reactionary here?

There's no threat here?

There's no threat?

What's going on?

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