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I'm host Rickadrens, also known as Ricky Vect. What's up another episode of Ripple Effect podcast?

We host Rickad Renz, also known as Ricky Vrans, almost stumbled on that intro.

Today we have another long conversation.

I hope you guys have been enjoying these longer conversations.

And I love these longer conversations because in three hours or two hours,

you can really get into so many different topics and personal stories and experiences and philosophies and all that stuff.

So it really makes for fun conversations.

And as you guys know on my show, you never know where the conversation is going to take you.

I go wherever it does take us.

So we could talk about anything and everything.

And when I say that, I really mean anything and everything and when I say that I really mean

anything and everything if you listen to past episodes I'll have certain guests on that we'll talk

about things that have nothing to do with their work and we'll find something really interesting

about their past or personal views or whatnot so that's kind of the goal. Enjoy flowing conversation and just go wherever

it takes us. With that said, Melody Krell, who you guys might know from the Union of Unwanted,

she's been on a bunch of episodes. She's a Hollywood refugee. She's also a researcher, really

smart girl. So I hope you guys really enjoy this conversation and my recent episode that i've

done with mickey willis it's been getting a little bit more attention than i wanted from youtube

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