believe in the ripple effect.

The ripple fact. I'm a. Finally, after a little bit of a hiatus, I'm always good for a couple of year, couple little hiatus.

Busy time of year, holidays, kids, family.

I had the stomach flu, which, FYI, hopefully you guys have some charcoal at home.

Activated charcoal is great for stomach flu or for food poisoning or anything like that.

So if anybody's going through that this time here, I know there's shit going around.

Always have some at home.

It's great.

And, but today, amazing podcast, Thomas Drake, NSA whistleblower.

We had an amazing conversation.

I've been trying to book him for a long time.

And we've been going back and forth,

and then he's busy.

We find a, you know, I think we're getting close, and then something comes up in his life or whatnot.

So I'm just happy that I finally had him on, and I got to share his amazing, amazing story.

If you guys aren't familiar with this story, you're about to be.

And the first part of the podcast, he shares his story from beginning to end, all the struggles,

all the sacrifices he made to expose basically how the NSA was spying on all of us.

He did what Edward Snowden eventually also end up doing.

And if you guys aren't familiar with Thomas Drake's story, Edward Snowden has publicly said that

Thomas Drake was a huge influence on himself. And one of the reasons why he came out publicly

and did what he did to expose this and also probably one of the

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