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First podcast of 2014, me and Dave are here with Douglas Ruscoff.

You might know him from, he's done TED Talks.

He's been on the Kobe Report.

He's done some documentaries on Frontline. He's been on some RT shows like The Big Picture. He's done TED Talks. He's been on the Kobe Report. He's been on, he's done some documentaries on Frontline. He's been on some RT shows like The Big Picture. He's done lectures all over the place. And I think he's written like 12 or 13 books. Some fiction, I believe. I think you've done one or two fiction. And then, you know, the rest of them are a lot of, he's a media theorist.

I don't think he's ever used a title philosopher, but if you listen to him talk, I think you're going to agree that he's pretty close to, you know, philosophy with his ideas and stuff like that.

He really gets you thinking and, you know, brings up some thought-provoking subjects.

And so he's written books like present shock and um and programmer be programmed

uh he's done documentaries like life ink uh for frontline and uh really interesting dude talks about

a topic that i think we can all kind of relate to uh anybody who's in a relationship with a girl

and screaming at her all the time for looking at her cell phone can probably relate to some of the

topics he he hits on uh just how technology has influenced you know culture and societies and all types

of stuff like that and just like our relationship with that he's also had some books about

corporations marketing money all types of stuff really really interesting dude so i just So I just want to thank Douglas Ruscoff for being with us today. Good. Good to be with you. Yeah. I want to start off with something that I've kind of been pondering on. And it's funny because when I had you, when we scheduled you, I'm like, oh, you know, I'd be really interested with what Doug has to say about this.

So from like the beginning of civilization until today, and I've heard you kind of briefly hit on this topic before, it seems like technology was always designed to give us more free time.

You know, it was like, you know, first we're like monkeys and then, you know, we have hunter

gatherers.

Most of our free time went to just surviving from getting food, from, you know, just. Right. If it's dedicated to surviving, then it isn't free time. Yeah, exactly. And it seems like, exactly. And then as time went by, you know, and as we technology, you know, we created tools and all and stuff, we had more free time to, you know, that's when philosophy came in art because we had time to think about things and come up with hobbies and do things that we enjoy that are creative. And what happened? Because it seems like if, if that trend kept on, uh, progressing, eventually we would, you know, a term that you've used before you know we'd be slackers we

would finally be able to work like a week out of the year and uh and then have all this free time to just

do the things we enjoy and not have to be you know um forced to sell our our you know our labor

you know per hour to survive like when what happened with technology when did that trend do you think it was marketing do you think it was uh you know capitalism per hour to survive. Like when, what happened with technology? When did that trend, do you think it was marketing?

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