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Today you find us wandering the coastal lanes of Suffolk, peering down from a crumbling cliff towards the bleached hulk of an old fishing boat poking from the sand, the maram grass rustling

in the wind like silk, a sense of uneasiness pervading everything.

I'm John Mitchinson, the publisher of Unbound, the platform where readers crowd fund the books they really want to read

And I'm Andy Miller author of the Year of Reading Dangerously and we're recording today in a bathosphere.

Yes.

We're not normally in this room.

What do you think?

I think it's quite good.

But it's kind of appropriate as you'll see for the, for the,

the kind of the resonance of the text that we're here to discuss. So joining us today is Philip

Hore. Hello?

Hello?

Philip is a broadcaster, curator, filmmaker and writer whose books include biographies of Stephen Tenant and Noel Coward.

The historical studies, Wild to Last Stand, Spike Island, the memory of a military hospital, which is a particularly good one.

I wonder why. I wonder why. I have full disclosure listeners. I edited that book with Philip,

but the quality of it is nothing to do with me and

all to do with him and England's Lost Eden his book Leviathan or The whale won the

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