We're discussing two separate unsolved murders cases in this episode. In 1986, 41-year-old Harve Ringheim and his 29-year-old wife Keiko were found murdered inside their home. They had been bound and tortured before they were killed. In 1968, 5 members of the Walker family died in a fire at their home that was determined to be arson. Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss these two tragic unsolved cases which involved many unanswered questions. Why were the Ringheims tortured before they were killed? What was someone after that they needed to torture this couple to get? In the Walker arson case, who would have wanted to burn the family home down and did know that at the time there were five Walker children inside? Or, was this a mistake, with the real target living a few doors down from the Walkers? You can help support the show at patreon.com/truecrimeallthetime Visit the show's website at truecrimeallthetime.com for contact, merchandise and donation information An Emash Digital Production