Welcome back to Drilled, I'm Amy Westervelt. In our last episode we mentioned the appearance

of the Republican Attorneys General Association, or Raga, in the big US youth climate case

Juliana versus United States. Today I want to dig into that organization a bit more

and some other organizations that like to party with it with one of the foremost experts

on this topic, Lisa Graves. My name is Lisa Graves and I'm the executive

director of Trunorth Research, which is a watchdog group that focuses on corporate distortion

of American democracy and I previously led the Center for Media Democracy. I'm still

the president of the board over there and I previously been deputy assistant attorney

general in the office of legal policy at the US Department of Justice and the chief

council of nominations for the US Senate Judiciary Committee, the deputy chief of the Article

3 Division of the US Court, the administrative office of the US Court, and I was the senior

legislative strategist for the ACLU on national security issues. So I'm a researcher and

a writer and someone who has looked deeply into some of these front groups or right wing

groups that have been advancing pretty extreme agenda in a lot of different ways both

federally and in the States. Lisa connects the dots on right wing extremism and climate

better than pretty much anyone I've ever talked to. So I'm really excited to bring you

this interview today. I talked to Lisa last year in the process of working on the second

season of the show This Land, which I highly recommend you check out if you haven't already.

Lisa follows a series of constitutional challenges to the Indian Child Welfare Act, which has

some surprising backers. And yeah, there is an oil and gas connection. At any rate, Lisa

has spent a lot of time looking at some of the specific lawyers and right wing funders

involved in that. Many of whom are the very same folks fighting against climate action.

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