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🗓️ 21 August 2025
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| 0:00.0 | From the New York Times, I'm Natalie Kitchrow-F. |
| 0:07.5 | This is the Daily. |
| 0:09.7 | During Trump's second term, one person has emerged as the most influential outside advisor to the president. |
| 0:17.8 | This morning, a major shakeup at the National Security Agency, telling Trump who to |
| 0:23.3 | fire, the director of the national security agency and the deputy director were fired. |
| 0:27.8 | And shaping major policy decisions. |
| 0:30.4 | Today, the U.S. State Department is halting medical humanitarian visas for people from |
| 0:34.8 | Gaza. |
| 0:35.8 | The State Department's policy shift comes after far-right activist Laura Lumer criticized |
| 0:40.3 | the three Gaza and children for coming to the U.S. for medical treatment. |
| 0:44.3 | Today, my colleague Ken Bensinger on the story of Laura Lumer. |
| 0:48.3 | Laura Lumer is a very good patron. |
| 0:52.3 | The social media provocateur who has become Trump's favorite blunt instrument. |
| 0:58.2 | I guess President Trump just likes me. |
| 1:01.0 | You have a friendship? |
| 1:02.3 | Yeah. I would say it's a friendship. |
| 1:06.2 | It's Thursday, August 21st. |
| 1:12.6 | Ken, welcome to the show. |
| 1:15.0 | Thanks for having me, Natalie. |
| 1:16.5 | So tell me, when and how did Laura Lumer first come onto your radar? |
| 1:22.7 | Well, I cover media and politics and have been interested in right-wing influencers and the way they shape |
| 1:29.1 | political discourse in the country. So I'd been aware of Laura Lumer as a figure in that world, |
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