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System Update with Glenn Greenwald

The Right Wages Its Own Cancel Culture War: Lee Fang, Thomas Chatterton Williams, and Leighton Woodhouse on the State of Civil Discourse and More

System Update with Glenn Greenwald

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Politics, News

4.71.2K Ratings

🗓️ 18 September 2025

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

The right has unleashed a cancel culture of its own in the wake of Charlie Kirk's assassination. Lee Fang, Thomas Chatterton Williams and Leighton Woodhouse discuss the state of civil discourse and threats to free speech in the US. 

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0:00.0

Good evening. My name is Lee Fong. I'm a journalist based in San Francisco. I'm your host of

0:21.9

System Update. Glenn Greenwald's out of town. Last week, the conservative commentator and organizer

0:29.5

Charlie Kirk was brutally assassinated as he was speaking in Utah on a college campus. This event has caused a ripple effect in our politics.

0:41.3

For good reason, much of the conservative movement has grieved.

0:45.3

The Trump administration has ordered flags flown at half-mast,

0:50.3

and he's been treated almost as a member of the administration or as a dignitary with a quasi-state funeral.

0:58.0

But there is also a more sinister element at foot. Within moments of this assassination, there were calls, demands on the conservative right for retribution, for a destruction

1:14.2

of civil liberties and a crackdown on political dissent. We now see similar rhetoric and a demand

1:24.1

from J.D. Vance, from President Donald Trump, from Pam Bondi and others to use this

1:30.8

tragedy as an opportunity to crack down on Democrats, on political donors, on left-wing donors

1:39.6

to magazines and other forms of media, and an attempt to crack down on what they describe as hate speech,

1:48.0

a form of censorship that for many years, people, including Charlie Kirk, identified as a slippery

1:56.8

slope towards government censorship. Who defines hate speech? Who defines what is harmful

2:03.0

speech? These are the debates we've had over the last 10 years as the left has used this

2:09.3

cudgel of censorship in the name of protecting the public from dangerous or harmful speech.

2:16.6

I want to dedicate this episode to a discussion of cancel culture and the kind of evolving

2:24.3

politics coming out of the assassination of Charlie Kirk.

2:28.3

We've seen a demand for a national database, the creation of a national database of individuals who are accused of making

2:37.6

offensive remarks around the Charlie Kirk assassination, celebrating it or somehow not dignifying

2:43.8

it in the proper way, and they push to have these individuals fired, or in some cases not even

2:48.3

these individuals who made these remarks, sometimes in private,

2:52.3

sometimes in private chats, but their family members fired or ostracized from their community.

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