Hey everybody. Welcome to the Muckreg podcast. I'm Nick Houselman and this is an announcement to let you know that we are going to be doing a new series called The Weekender over on Patreon that will appear every Friday.

And this is a little sneak preview so you can get a handle on what it's like and why you'd want to go over there and join the Patreon and be part of that community, which has been incredible and amazing with a lot of people there and a lot of great conversations.

So, uh, here it is. Check it out. And feel free to check out the actual Patreon as well at patreon.com slash muckrake podcast.

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Saxon here enjoying a nice, cool, frothy beverage as we're starting the weekend. I'm here as

always with Nick Hausman. You are either a patron of the Muckrakewarkin podcast. And if you are,

we salute you and we thank you and you are the salt of the earth and you make sure that this show

is ad-free. You make sure that we have editorial independence or you are one of our listeners

who enjoys listening to the preview of the Weekender show, which all I have to say is,

hello, make yourself comfortable. you should consider becoming a patron.

This is a good show. Hang out with us a little bit longer. Do you agree with that?

I like nothing more on my Thursday to fire up the old Skype and hang out with you.

I love it. I love it. Unfortunately, we are the Moncrank podcast, which means we have to talk about some gnarly shit.

Did you tell people if they didn't but not patrons how they find us? Yeah, they can go to patreon.com slash muckreg podcast. So head on over there so you can hear us have this conversation about, Nick, I, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't like this.

As an educator as, as, as, as a member of the United States of America, as a conscientious citizen, I don't, I don't like what we're getting ready to talk about. 15 years ago, I can remember people complaining about safe spaces, which you would probably know all about.

Did you have your own safe space on? years ago, I can remember people complaining about safe spaces, which you would probably know all

about. Did you have your own safe space on campus? Well, you know, actually, campus is all about

actually having really difficult conversations. Right. People really enjoy that. And it's like

this laboratory of existence and intellectualism and shared society.

And when people say safe space, actually, they imagine kids in a room like with bean bags and kittens and stuff.

But it actually means being in a space where people feel comfortable having hard discussions.

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