I'm kind of more worried about the rest of the country, which thanks to police in action, in case you haven't noticed, it's like boarded up.

So that's more of my concern.

But I appreciate your coming on.

Ed Gavin.

Thank you.

Nope.

Done.

But in my case, on any given day, there were two or three dozen, what I call knuckleheads, who just wanted,

they wanted chaos. They wanted it all their way or no way. And, you know, American democracy

just doesn't work that way.

Hey, everybody. Welcome to the Muckrake podcast. I'm Jared Yates Sexton. Here's always with

Nick Houseman. Welcome to the show. We've got. I'm Jared Yates Sexton. Here's always with Nick Houseman.

Welcome to the show. We've got a special one for you today. Friend of the pod and one of the best writers and political thinkers out there. Wajahad Ali is coming on. We're going to have a conversation with him that we are really excited to talk about, including, you know, the American right, continuing to lose their mind.

And on that subject, before we bring on Wage, occasionally, Nick, there's an article that comes out.

And those articles sometimes words will come out and they'll change the world. You think, like, Thomas Payne's common sense could help, you know, start a war for independence.

And, you know, the the theses of Martin Luther posted on a church door.

So before we get to this conversation, I think this is a seminal text, is what I'll say.

A touchstone, if you will.

A real touchstone text.

And we're going to take a look at it because I actually think this this did so much for me in starting to not

just I've understood what the rights thought is and what they're going and we've called it delusional

we've called it another reality this actually sheds some light on something that we've been we've been groping for in the dark, Nick.

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