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Hello and welcome to Factually.

I'm Adam Conover.

Thank you so much for joining me on the show again.

You know, as I speak to you, we're in the middle of a violent and racist anti-immigration

campaign led by the White House and the president who resides within it.

This hatred of immigrants is an excuse for the administration to employ nakedly authoritarian tactics.

Just the other weekend, Trump called in thousands of National Guard members to my city of Los Angeles

to violently suppress protests against these immigration raids, which were hurting and injuring

innocent people. It is a really frightening time in America. But, you know, immigration becoming a

flashpoint isn't really a surprise, because for years Trump has talked about immigrants, and

particularly those from Latin America, in horrendous terms. He called Mexicans rapists, Venezuelans, all gang members accused Haitians of eating dogs.

He's done everything possible to declare that these people who are our literal neighbors, both geographically and in our own communities, as impossibly foreign, separate, dangerous to us.

It's bizarre. He has a vision of the United States

that is somehow magically divorced from the rest of the hemisphere, as though we are a special

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